|
| Author |
Message |
dalyte1
Sneaker Doctors
Joined: Feb 11 2003
Posts: 7033
Feedback: 43
Location: Delano - Earlimart (661) Central Valley
|
 Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: RESTORE/Cleaning FAQ VOL. 7 -READ PG. 1 FIRST!!! |
 |
|
|
|
Every aspect of cleaning/restoring is now incorporated on page 1 of this FAQ. So no more excuses about you can't find anything about "____" fix this and that.
USE CONTROL + F
TO FIND SOMETHING ON THIS PAGE. IT'S THAT SIMPLE
No need to PM me a Restore/Cleaning Question. Please post it in here instead.
This is
Restoration/Cleaning FAQ VOL. 7
Make sure to read and re-read the Announcements and Stickies. They provide pretty much everything you should know about Customizing, Restoring, and Cleaning.
DON'T BE LAZY AND ASK AN ANSWERED QUESTION IN THE FAQ. READ THE GUIDES FIRST.
If you want to ask if a shoe is wearable
Direct your questions to this thread
http://www.solecollector.com/forums/official-is-this-shoe-wearable-biggest-update-yet-t864422.html
Before asking questions about cleaning and restoration, make sure you properly state what kind of problem you are having, and if you can, post pictures. Honestly it is difficult to answer questions if you don't explain your problem or have pictures. Thanks.
Don't worry if you think your questions might not be answered in this FAQ, I and my Sneaker Doctors team read through new posts and try to answer questions in a timely manner (if answerable).
POSTING GUIDELINES
| Quote: | | REMEMBER POST ACTUAL PICTURES |
Also if you don't have a clue about answering a fellow member's question, DO NOT BOTHER POSTING. I've been seeing too many people post in the FAQ, "OH Go Ask A Sneaker Doctor" or suggest some unproven/random method that obviously doesn't work.
-------------------
GENERAL CLEANING
Toothbrush, Hand Brush, Dish Soap, Water, and a Dry Towel.
-Start off with running cold water from the faucet and clean using a brush (dish soap can be added if needed), then use a cloth/towel to wipe dry. If the dirt/stain is persistent, you might have to repeat the cleaning process.
You can also use a damp towel to clean shoes as well, that's if you want to deal with really dirty towels to be tossed in the washer. The damp towel method can be used on white leather uppers as well as midsoles for quick cleaning.
ODORS
-Lysol, Febreeze, Laundry Dryer Sheets
Most odors can come from the insole or the ankle lining areas of a shoe. So it may be a good idea to clean those aspects if the products above do not work.
YELLOWED RUBBER/SOLES
-You will need to purchase Sea Glow
It's the blue liquid called Sea Glow. There is only one product on their site called that.
UV Rays from the Sun is the key component to make Sea Glow work. Artificial sources don't seem to yield decent results. Sea Glow can probably be used in cold temperature as long as the sun is present. However, you have to consider that Sea Glow might have a Freezing Point. I'm not sure if it does or what it is, but be sure to pay attention to your shoes when using Sea Glow in cold temperatures.
Sea Glow Guide
The guide refers to Air Jordan XI's but the same method is applied to all shoes with clear rubber. Separation can still occur regardless if it has a carbon fiber shank or not.
YELLOWED OR BADLY STAINED WHITE MESH/NYLON/CANVAS
--Refer to the Cleaning method in the Cleaning Tips section.
Only resort to this method if dish soap or laundry detergent is ineffective.
-You will need RIT Brightener & Whitener and/or RIT Color Remover.
They can be purchased pretty much anywhere. Check the laundry/cleaning section of the store.
Be sure to read the instructions on the label. This is mainly used for items that are white and not colored, so use caution.
Multiple applications may be necessary to gain desired results.
Yellowed Mesh/Canvas/Nylon Guide
3M REFLECTIVE SCOTCHLITE
Use a clean damp towel to wipe off any dirt or stains. Then use an electric fan to dry to avoid spotting.
If a stain does embeds itself into the material, then there is nothing you can do about it.
Also, many have been confusing scuffed/damaged areas for stains. If it's scuffed as in a damaged surface, then there is nothing you can do to fix that.
REMOVING EXISTING CREASES
-Keep in mind that this does not work on patent leather or plastic based synthetic uppers. You will run the risk of damage if you do.
patisboi's Decreasing Guide
PREVENTING CREASES
-They sell Force Fields at major sneaker chains for about $9.99.
Many say they work and many say they hurt.
STORAGE
-Silica Packs and Damp Rid both have their PRO's and CON's. They supposedly slow down the yellowing process however in doing so, they also dry up midsoles and leather over time. They can also dry up glue and cause sole separation as well.
A closet and oversized Ziplock bags should be "good" enough to maintain your shoes, especially if you wear them from time to time.
Too much handling can lead to yellowing. A prime example are the shoes at Shoe Stores.
In terms of future wear, it looks like you have to wear your shoes around the house from time to time, to keep the materials pliable. That way you can lessen the chances of the midsoles crumbling. However, I would not advise this for DS condition shoes such as AJ IV's from 1999 and etc. since there is a high chance of them actually cracking/crumbling upon trying them on or during wear. So in a sense, it's kind of too late for them.
Keep in mind, yellowing and damage to shoes is inevitable. It will eventually happen sooner or later. Shoes were made to be worn.
RE-PAINTING
-Angelus Leather Paint
The same prep work done on customizing shoes applies to repainting them.
http://www.solecollector.com/forums/ultimate-customizing-guide-read-first-t155216.html
MIXING PAINT
-If you are trying to get that elusive infrared or true blue color, you're going to have to experiment and mix paint yourself.
FADED NUBUCK/SUEDE
-Suede/Nubuck Dye
-Meltonian Suede Renew
^^GOOGLE Search it
CRACKED-SCUFFED NUBUCK/SUEDE
-You cannot fix this material. It can be dyed the same shade of color, but the surface will and always remain damaged.
CRACKED, CRUMBLED, AND/OR DAMAGED MIDSOLES
-There are no step by step guides. 
So you'll have to pretty much figure it out for yourself.
SEPARATION
- E-6000 and Barge Glue are notable to work for separation issues.
Do a Google search online then try to find them at stores nearby. If all else fails, eBay has plenty.
-You will also need to find a way or method to properly clamp down the separated area while the glue cures.
MIDSOLE SWAP
-You're going to need glue (mentioned above or better).
-You're going to have to find a way to clamp down the shoe right after gluing it.
Measure the damaged shoe and the "donor" shoe if the midsole's sizes match. Originals and Retros tend to vary in shape and size.
_________________
RESTORE/Cleaning FAQ VOL. 7 - ASK Questions in that thread not my PM box
Also for the folks that ask. I don't take in restore work. I never have and I probably never will since I don't have time.
SNEAKER DOCTORS - 2008 Usergroup of the Year
Last edited by dalyte1 on Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:14 am; edited 15 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
dalyte1
Sneaker Doctors
Joined: Feb 11 2003
Posts: 7033
Feedback: 43
Location: Delano - Earlimart (661) Central Valley
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: Cleaning Tips |
|
|
|
|
Cleaning Tips Compilation
Update ( 10/19/08 ) / Original Version ( 10/25/02 )
This is another update to my Cleaning Tips Compilation. I've noticed a couple of flaws causing some slight confusion. So I've tried my best to simplify the phrasing of some methods mentioned. I've also noticed that a lot of people are not reading the guide or thoroughly reading the guide before asking questions in the Cleaning/Restoring FAQ. Please read the guides in this forum. The basis of what you need to know lies within the Guides alone. Everything else is just commonsense.
-dalyte1
Not many people can afford to beat up a pair and have a couple pairs of shoes to stash in their closet for future use. That is the major reason why this guide was compiled in the first place. Also this guide uses relatively cheap and effective items to keep your shoes clean and keep your wallet ready to purchase more shoes.
Someone asked whether I was keeping some cleaning/restoring secrets to myself, well the answer is yes, however it’s pretty much common sense that most people can figure it out for themselves. I’ll gradually reveal a few here and there in future updates.
First off, try to prevent your shoes from getting dirty, scuffed, or even bled on by denim jeans in the first place. Do not intentionally beat up your kicks and expect to clean them and make them look like they just came out of the box. Something of that nature rarely happens, especially with the quality of most shoes today.
Usually when I acquire a new pair of kicks I spray at least 2 coats of waterproofer, top, bottom, and all over. (I'm crazy like that) but it slightly makes it easier to clean.
Be aware of your surroundings, if you see gum, mud, or anything unsafe for your shoes; walk around or over it. Also check the weather updates. If it looks like it's going to rain, don't wear the shoes you don't want to get messed up. Do what I did back in my high school days, and carry an extra pair or even a pair of beaters in your backpack or in the trunk of your car.
Here are some basic items that might come in handy.
Toothbrush, Medium-Large sized brush (larger brushes make it easier to clean soles)
Magic Eraser (Mr. Clean or 3M brand works fine, make sure you get the one with the grip since they hold up better)
-(tip) cut the sponges in half so that you use it more efficiently-
Dishwashing Soap (examples are Joy, Ivory, and Ajax: go for the clearer translucent types)
Waterproofer (You can get them at shoe stores, also 3M Scotch Guard is said to work well as well)
Nubuck/Suede Brush Eraser Cleaning Kit
-(tip) pick up extra waterproofer and a Nubuck/Suede Brush Eraser Cleaning Kit whenever they have Friends & Family sales at shoe stores, that way you save some cash. Right now they retail for $5.99 at Footlocker.
Toothpicks or Eyeglass Screwdrivers
-(tip) these come in handy for removing rocks and pebbles in between the traction grooves on soles. Preferably Eyeglass Screwdrivers is the better purchase since they'll last longer than toothpicks.
Towels
Majority of the people suggest using E-6000 glue. It can be found at Walmart and most stores.
On to my revised cleaning tips.
Let's start inside out.
Remove laces if needed.
Remember to use good judgment and common sense when cleaning your shoes.
Sock Pillings/Fuzz-
This maybe the most annoying of all to clean, but it’s not all that bad. You can either buy a clothing fuzz/pilling remover or go the cheap and hard way. You can either pull them out with your fingers or use tweezers to pull them out. After doing that I usually use a dry toothbrush, tip the shoes sideways and brush out the pillings into a trash can or use a lint roller/ rip the sticky paper to pick up some of the fuzz/pillings.
Insoles (if your insoles are dirty)-
Either you use the original or replace with another to keep original DS, you choose.
If you just want to get the fuzz off either use a lint roller or use a brush to brush it off.
Depending on the type of insole most likely you can clean it with this method. In the past I bought a used pair of XI lows and the insole was dirty so what I did was take it out. Put it in the bath tub and soaked both of them using running water. Then I used dish washing liquid and scrubbed with a brush. During the cleaning process you should be able to see the dirt coming out through the water. Once done rinse as much as you can and then pat out the water using a dry towel. It's best that you air dry the insoles using an electric fan.
Basic Cleaning-
This is probably the most essential and versatile way to clean your shoes.
Some people have mentioned using a washing machine to clean their shoes but I am staying away from that. What I've heard is that you need to put the shoes in a pillow case then put them in the washer.
-Use a toothbrush/hand brush, Water and a Dry Towel
Basically start off with running cold water from the faucet and clean using a brush (dishwashing soap can be added if needed), then use a cloth/towel to wipe dry. If the dirt/stain is persistent, you might have to repeat the cleaning process.
You can also use a damp towel to clean shoes as well, that's if you want to deal with really dirty towels to be tossed in the washer. The damp towel method can be used on white leather uppers as well as midsoles for quick cleaning.
Soles-
This will also work for the edges near the soles as well
Usually I prefer to pick out the little stones and pebbles first with an eyeglass screwdriver.
If you can, upgrade your old toothbrush for a medium to large sized brush. You will get better results.
Start off by cleaning the soles with water, dishwashing soap and a brush (toothbrushes usually aren't as effective as bigger brushes). Then wash off the soap residue and wipe the soles with a towel and let dry. Only use Mr. Clean Magic Eraser if you have to.
It’s best to clean the soles as much as you can before you use Mr. Clean Magic Eraser. This way you can actually tell what Magic Eraser can do.
For white based soles (Air Jordan XII playoff, AJ II white/red/black mid)
Use Mr. Clean Magic Eraser or the 3M brand version. If it's your first time using it, don't be worried if the sponge starts to crumble, it does that. Always start with light scrubbing then gradually increase. You don't want to over do it the first time that's why I suggest that method.
You can also use it for non-white based soles as well. But keep in mind to try it on a small area before proceeding with the rest of the shoe. It might remove coloring.
I had a dark stain that was on the heel part of my XI (black/red) that wouldn't go away. It was probably there for a little over 2 years. I tried toothpaste, scrubbing, etc. It was persistent. When I tried Mr. Clean Magic Eraser, it was gone in 30 seconds.
Cleaning Clear Soles (not restoring)-
(AJ 5, 6, 11, 16 and other shoes with clear soles)
*Use the same method above for SOLES*
First off the best way to keep them clear is by taking care of them from Day 1. Always clean the soles every time after you wear your shoes. Keep in mind the clear soles will stay clear for a while, but will gradually dim and darken as you wear the shoes more and more. After cleaning, make sure they are dried, and put it back in the box or whatever you are using along with Silica packs to prolong the clearness of the soles. Never put Silica packs directly on the shoes.
-(UNCONFIRMED) Oven Cleaner and Crest White Strips.- This was mentioned in the past but apparently was never confirmed.
Treating Yellowed Soles-
Sea Glow
You can get it at
http://www.islandgirlproducts.com/
Take your time and use a freehand method to apply. Taping can rip the paint off of midsoles.
Sea Glow is not the sole cause of midsole separation. Keep in mind the heat factor plays a big part as well.
The heat absorbed by the carbon fiber plate causes the glue to melt and the end result is sole separation.
Visible Air Soles-
(AJ 3, 4, 5, 6, 16, and other shoes like air max 90)
I use a Q-tip to clean that part. First I dampen one side with water to clean away the debris/dirt and use the other side to dry. Usually there are persistent dirt marks that are left on the area near and around the visible air. Lightly dabbing the Q-tip with either rubbing alcohol or nail polish remover should remove it; however use this as a last resort. It might remove the coloring of the surface.
Cleaning Suede/Nubuck/Durabuck-
(Air Jordan 6, 7, 18 and other shoes)
Use the Nubuck/Suede Eraser-Brush Cleaning kit
Suede has a nappier texture compared to Nubuck/Durabuck.
Nubuck/Durabuck has a smooth texture.
Nubuck/Suede Eraser will usually do the job. Time frame and repetitiveness of using it varies on the degree of the stain.
(For Black Nubuck)
Use a dry flat head toothbrush or hand brush (if you don’t have the brush kit) to clean off any debris, dust, and lint off of the Suede part of the shoes. If it still looks a little dusty use a couple drops of water on the area and brush it. If that doesn't work, use another used toothbrush.
Waterproofer will also bring back that darkish look to black shoes.
Also be careful with the Suede brush that comes with the kit. It can fray the stitching on the shoes.
-Quick Tip-
After you are done cleaning and you don't plan to wear the shoes anytime soon. You might want to saran wrap your shoes to keep dust and lint away so that they'll be ready in a heartbeat when you decide to wear them.
Denim Jean Stains
If it's on white leather or nubuck/suede. Use a Nubuck/Suede Eraser on it. If it doesn't come out, try again the next day. Attempting to clean it the same day using an eraser will just frustrate you.
You can also use a warm damp towel on white (or some colored) leather (not suede/nubuck).
Magic Erasers and Nail Polish remover works as well, but use with caution if you do. Over scrubbing can remove the paint or damage the particular surface of the shoe you are cleaning.
Shoe Laces-
My advice is to have extras just in case so you can alternate. I usually buy a bunch whenever there is a Friends and Family sale. Also I never use the white laces that come with the shoes; I always store the original laces in a Ziplocs and use look-alike laces instead. That way it saves me the trouble of having to clean the OG laces if they get dirty, and replacement laces cost around $1 anyway.
-(Cleaning white colored laces)-
Washing machine method works to some extent. It’s best if you use a side loading washing machine so that there’s less chances of fraying and destroying the laces. Just toss them in with your whites. Or get some laundry detergent put it in a big bowl mix it with some hot water then put your white laces in there. If you want to put some bleach go ahead.
Scrub the laces together, rinse and repeat. Then you can use a hair dryer or just hang them up to dry. Just make sure you squeeze out the water before you hang them, it might cause them to stretch.
You can also put your shoe laces in an empty water bottle, (Brian™'s Method). Add some laundry detergent and hot water. Shake the water bottle every now and then. You may have to drain the water out and repeat the steps over again for better results.
(Still being tested)
You can substitute laundry detergent for Bar Keeper’s Friend. It seems to remove more of the dirt stains than laundry detergent.
White shoes or white parts of shoes-
The simplest way to clean is to use a clean damp towel.
It seems like if you brush too much on white shoes that they start to fade, chip, or peel away. Hot water gets deep stains out but after a while the white will fade out, so I stay with cold water.
Mr. Clean Magic Eraser comes in handy for this. But be careful not to over do it. Magic Clean Eraser can be abrasive enough to take off the layer of paint on shoes. You can also use the eraser from the Suede/Nubuck kit for quick touch ups while you are on the go.
White Leather-
You can use a damp towel or basic cleaning to clean white leather. If there are persistent smudge marks and dirt, you can clean it off with a wet Mr. Clean Magic Eraser. Do not squeeze out the water. Just lightly go over the area with the wet Magic Eraser, that way you don’t end up stripping the paint.
White Stitching-
Use a toothbrush and some dish soap, dampen the stitching you want to clean and scrub. You may have to repeat this process a couple of times to see results. Then just rinse the area with water and dry with a towel.
If it’s really bad what you might want to do is use some shoe whitener and a paintbrush and carefully paint it on the stitching. Then get a damp towel and wipe it off. It might take several attempts before the stitching is whitened without becoming stiff. What you want it to do is to absorb the whitener, cleaning it off with a damp towel will make the stitching not as stiff. The only downside to this is that the white colors won’t really match. Either the leather white or the stitching white is lighter than the other.
Scuffs-
Scuffs on white shoes can be taken cared of by using the customizer's method. Clean area off with acetone or the one that Turtlefeathers.com sells, then paint over with Angelus paint. Refer to the Custom’s Sticky for how to properly prep and paint your shoes.
Inner Liner-
(White AF1’s and others)
Probably one of the most annoying areas of a shoe is the white inner liner.
Lightly spray the liner with waterproofer or stain guard while the liner is still clean.
Always clean the liner after every wear or when you notice light dirt marks. You can clean it using a damp towel or using a damp toothbrush (and pat dry with a towel). A quick note, you might want to clean this area after every wear or if you notice light marks. This way it doesn’t build up and become harder to remove later down the road.
If it's already there, proceed to using a damp towel to clean any stains. Keep in mind stains usually don't go away after one cleaning session, it usually takes several. Basic Cleaning can be incorporated, dishsoap + warm water + brush. Remember to stick a dry towel inside of the shoe to soak up any water that would get into the shoe otherwise.
Black Leather-
(AJ XVII and others)
If you want to make it shiny or add luster, you can either get the creams intended for leather or use baby oil or hand lotion. Just apply then wipe the excess with a towel. The downside is it will attract dust and lint to the shoe. But if you just want to clean it, just wipe the leather down with a damp towel and dry.
-(Tire Shine/Polish attracts dirt and grime, baby oil attracts lint and dust)-
Patent Leather-
(AJ 11, 16 and other shoes)
Clean with a damp or moist towel, then wipe dry. If you want to make the patent shine and gloss, apply hand lotion and wipe off with a towel.
For quick touch ups carry a hand towel with a corner that is moisten with lotion.
For light scratch marks or white scratch marks, you can use a little bit of rubbing alcohol or nail polish remover on one end of a Q-tip and lightly go over the area with the scratch. Use this at your own discretion. If you are not sure, post a picture of your scratch in the corresponding sticky.
If the patent leather is stained or yellowed, there is no way to remove that.
-(Windex is said to eventually crack the patent leather. Baby Oil is a bit too messy on patent leather. Car wax, I haven't tried it)-
Mesh/Canvas-
(AJ XI and others)
First off, take out the insole if you wish and put a dry towel inside the shoe. Have another dry towel on hand just in case. After that, you want to dampen the area that is dirty. Then put a dab of dishwashing soap and dampen your toothbrush/brush before you start brushing the area. Brush lightly at first. Depending on your brush, you might fray the mesh, so use caution. As you brush, wash off the soap from the brush from time to time and continue brushing. I usually wipe the soap off of the shoe with a damp towel and press the dry part of the towel onto the mesh to absorb any water. Keep doing that until there is no more soap present. Then air dry with an electric fan to dry it more quickly. Do not put the shoes out in the sun or use a hair dryer, it’s possible that you might end up warping the shape or cause potential damage to the leather and materials.
Bar Keeper’s Friend (BFK)-
I’ve never personally used it, but the directions are:
Get a container such as a cup. Put some BFK and mix it with warm/hot water until it gets pasty, then brush it on to the mesh and lightly scrub. Don’t let it sit too long. Finally wash it off.
From what I’ve noticed in pictures, BFK seems to dull the shininess of the nylon mesh in XI’s.
Also, there has been cases where black/blue spots appearing on the mesh. I’m not quite sure what causes it, but it might be from the black liner from inside the shoe bleeding through the mesh. That’s the main reason why I haven’t personally tried it.
Variated Version of Mesh/Canvas Cleaning-
You can substitute using a toothbrush/brush with a clean white towel. In most cases it might be safer to use a towel instead of a toothbrush since it can cause fraying depending on how you scrub or the type of toothbrush you use. This can be used in inner liners similar the Air Jordan XII (French Blue).
The purpose of these CASE STUDIES is to provide examples of cases where people would usually just give up on a shoe.
-CASE STUDY 1 (Air Jordan XI Cool Grey)-
-Removed-
After careful inspection of my own pair, it seems to weaken the material after so many cleanings. I've only cleaned mine 3 times.
-CASE STUDY 2 (All Fogged Up)-
-Removed-
Can cause the air units to weaken and pop/crack when worn /(unworn depending on age).
People who I had try the method, reported those instances occurring to their shoes ranging from OG's to 1999-2000 IV's and V's.
COMMON QUESTIONS-
AJ VII (French Blue) & (Olympic) Yellowed Toe. Same as Playoff XII, AJ IX.
A quick fix is to use sandpaper (200 or more grit) and lightly sand off the yellowing. However doing so will cause the exposed layer to eventually yellow as well. So use at your own risk.
In certain cases Mr. Clean Magic Eraser may or may not remove the yellowing.
Sea Crystals (Nike Dunk High) and Stussy (Nike Dunk Low – the pink area).
Apparently the suede part gets dirty really easily. I do not have a definite answer. The only thing I can suggest is to use a Nubuck/Suede Eraser. The main factor is the severity of dirt/stains on the suede.
AJ XIII Midsole Separation (other shoes can be done in a similar fashion).
Use Shoe Goo or Goop. You can apply it using a toothpick for tricky areas. Make sure you clean off any excess glue. You need to clamp down the shoe for 24 hours so that the glue can properly cure.
AJ XI Scratched/Scuffed/Creased Patent.
First off there’s nothing much you can do about creasing, just move on.
Most scratches/scuffs can be removed by using a small amount of nail polish remover on a Q-tip end. Just make sure to squeeze out excess nail polish remover. When cleaning the area make sure to lightly scrub a certain part first. Never over scrub because you can ruin the finish and the patent leather.
Smell/Odors.
There are many options. Deodorizing Balls that they sell at most shoe stores. Disinfectant spray such as Lysol and Febreeze. In other cases you might have to clean the insole.
To prevent it:
Wear clean socks. If your feet sweat easily replace your socks throughout the day or use moisture-wicking socks.
After each wear, air dry the inside of the shoe and/or take out the insole and fan out with an electric fan for faster results.
For nasty cigarette odors, I used fabric softener sheets like Snuggle and left one inside per shoe for about a week or 2. Make sure it’s inside the shoe and not touching laces or anything. I haven’t fully tested it, so I don’t know what the consequences of the method will do if the sheet is left in contact with leather or any other type of material. It did slightly over-masked the cigarette odor but not completely. Perhaps leaving it in the shoe longer might come out with better results.
I compiled this due to the mass amount of similar questions being asked.
Air Jordan I
85-94 editions with white nylon tongues
-use the mesh cleaning method. If it’s yellowed, there’s not much you can do about it as of right now.
2003 Patent edition
-refer to the patent leather cleaning section
Midsoles and soles can be cleaned with basic cleaning.
Air Jordan II
2004 Retro
-refrain from using Magic Eraser on the plastic parts because it can scratch the surface. Also refrain from using it on the colored midsole part.
Air Jordan III
2001-2003 Retro
-if the white midsole looks faded or has stubborn dirt stains that won’t come off, it’s possible that the factory paint has faded. That means your only option is to just strip it all off with rubbing alcohol and repaint or just simply leave it alone.
-Nubuck Elephant Print gets dirty. Just clean it with a nubuck/suede eraser.
-once the heel tab goes yellow it’s permanent unless you want to paint it.
-the grey sole starts to get dark. No solution as of right now.
Air Jordan IV
-midsole issue similar to III’s.
-grey sole problem similar to III’s.
2004 White/Green
-netting yellows. Only option is to carefully paint over it.
Air Jordan V
-Clear soles/plastic netting: only answer is Sea Glow at the moment.
-3M Scotch Lite material is dirty. First off determine whether it's "scuffed" or "dirty." I've noticed many people asking this question since the Retro 5's were released again. The safest way to go is to clean it with a nubuck/suede eraser or a damp clean white towel. This should wipe off any residue that might be on the material, however it might not clean off any bad stains.
Air Jordan VI
-Clear soles: only answer is Sea Glow at the moment.
Air Jordan VII
2002
-black/red (or citrus) toe is faded or grayish. That’s because the nubuck material is supposed to give off a “charcoal” effect. It’s not supposed to entirely be black.
Avoid contact with water and foam nubuck/suede cleaners to begin with. It seems that this particular material on AJ VII's seem to be sensitive to cleaners. So avoid getting that part of the shoe dirty. If you have to clean it, use a dry brush.
Air Jordan VIII
2003
-plastic panels yellow. Can’t do anything about it.
-soles yellow. Sandpaper if you want, but it will yellow again.
-straps frayed. You can trim off any loose frays.
Air Jordan IX
2002
-midsole paint cracks. Can’t really do anything about it other than to prep and repaint it. Chances are the paint won’t hold up very long after so many wears.
-soles yellow.
Air Jordan X
-Squeeking. So far baby powder under the insole works. Puncturing the Air Sole is quite an unintelligent thing to do to an “Air” Jordan. Doing so kills the purpose of the shoe being called "Air" Jordan.
Air Jordan XI
Let me differentiate. Many people jump to using Bar Keeper’s Friend to solve a simple dirt stain. Keep in mind BFK ruins the luster of the nylon mesh and gives it a pasty flat dull look.
-nylon mesh is dirty. Clean it with the mesh cleaning method.
-nylon mesh is yellowed. You have the option of using Bar Keeper’s Friend, but use it at your own discretion. That stuff is toxic.
-yellowed lace loops. This you can pretty much fix with Bar Keeper’s Friend without much worry. Just make sure to cover up any exposed areas with a dry white towel to prevent any accidental BFK overflow.
-yellowed clear soles: only answer is Sea Glow at the moment.
Air Jordan XII
-yellowed white soles. You can use sandpaper or leave it alone. Sandpaper exposes rubber from underneath the yellowing, which will yellow after a while anyway.
Air Jordan XIII
-dirty pods: You can use basic cleaning or a magic eraser.
-yellowed pods: Can’t really do anything. You can lightly paint over it but the paint probably won’t hold up that long.
-clouded hologram: Hair Dryer. However be aware that prolonged exposure to heat can cause the foil to dent up. Also the hologram will cloud up again in a couple of weeks.
Air Jordan XIV
-“teeth” parts creased. Honestly you can’t really do anything about that.
-faded suede toe
Air Jordan XV
Air Jordan XVI
-creased patent leather. Another thing you can’t do anything about.
Air Jordan XVII
-the clear part of the midsoles get scuffed up. You can use Rubbing Alcohol or Nail Polish Remover and lightly go over the scuffs.
Air Jordan XVIII
Lows
-leather is creased. Well what can I say is the leather is much softer than most so it’ll probably end up looking worn a hundred times after just wearing it a few times.
All
-when I wear them they squeak. That's usually due to the insole or sockliner being loose. However, what I did was fold a paper towel in half lengthwise and stuck it under the insole. The squeaking was drastically reduced to almost no sound.
Air Jordan XIX
-to prevent the spandex material in the back from fraying, just simply use you fingers to stretch out the material, cover it with your fingers while you safely guide the strap in to minimize fraying.
Air Jordan XX
Mids
-my Velcro strap doesn't stick well anymore. Clean the Velcro with a dry brush. Otherwise you can purchase Velcro that can be cut to any size and stick them on top of the existing one to keep the straps in place when worn.
Air Jordan XXI
-possible yellowing on white soles.
Air Jordan XXII
-clear sole.
-midsole paint in heel chips and cracks over repeated wear.
Air Jordan XXIII
-tongue on the All Star version yellows. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dalyte1
Sneaker Doctors
Joined: Feb 11 2003
Posts: 7033
Feedback: 43
Location: Delano - Earlimart (661) Central Valley
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: Midsole Damage & Separation |
|
|
|
|
Midsole Damage
Here's my take on it. If you know the shoes are of a particular one that will crack upon wear, don't wear them and mess them up and expect a Sneaker Doctor or anyone else to just fix them for you and magically make them wearable again.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but there is a lot of work and patience behind it.
Many think that a clear and unclouded Visible Air Unit on AJ IV-VI is a sure way to tell if it's wearble or not, it's not. There are wearable pairs out there that have badly clouded Visible Air Units.
In fact, many older shoes with Non-Visible Air Units are probably clouded but since it's not exposed, you won't know if it is. It's probably one of the most overlooked thing about those types of shoes.
Keep in mind,
THERE IS NO STEP BY STEP GUIDE FOR RESURFACING A MIDSOLE.
You will need Caulk or something similar. Even Putty or Glazing might be an option. Go to a hardware store and ask a sales associate questions about it and tell them what you are planning to use it for.
Otherwise, just retire the shoes and leave them alone.
This is not an easy task to do. You will also need tools that will allow you to sand and shape the filling material. Paints can be found in the Customizing Guide.
Midsole/Sole Swapping
This is currently still a fairly new method that has been an option to those who wish to wear their OG's that are already damaged.
Swapping involves the damaged pair and a donor pair which is what you are using for parts.
Stay tuned for more info and development of a possible guide in the future.
Separation
Not to be confused with Midsole Damage such as crumbled midsoles.
The separation I'm referring to is the one that is common with older shoes due to its glue drying up, thus causing a clean separation of the sole and or midsole from the rest of the shoe.
You may have to look into a strong flexible glue to aid the separation issue. Shoe Goo probably won't cut it if you plan to wear the shoe.
What brand?...
Well you'll have to experiment for yourself.
E-6000 and Barge Glue seem to be the best out right now.
You will also have to find a way to properly clamp the shoe while the glue is in the "curing" stage. Visit a hardware store and just browse for options. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dalyte1
Sneaker Doctors
Joined: Feb 11 2003
Posts: 7033
Feedback: 43
Location: Delano - Earlimart (661) Central Valley
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:09 am Post subject: Sea Glow Guide + PRO's & CON's |
|
|
|
|
Sea Glow Guide + PRO's and CON's
Sunlight is the key component when using Sea Glow, not by how hot it is outside.
First off,
CON's
Heat can potentially damage your shoes. Majority of shoes produced are usually glued at the midsole, unlike Dunks and Air Force 1's which are glued and stitched at the midsole.
The common shoes being Sea Glowed are Air Jordan V, VI, XI, and XVI's.
With partial exception to the Air Jordan V, which is partially stitched at the toe, the other Air Jordans listed can potentially separate at the midsole and or sole when subjected to prolonged exposure to heat.
Relatively, this issue can be quickly addressed if you apply pressure to the soles and the shoe while it is still hot. That way the separated parts can be re-attached before the glue cools down. If the parts cool down before that, it will remain separated. If applying pressure (while it's still warm/hot) does not work (while it's still hot), it probably means Sea Glow seeped in between the crevices and destroyed the factory glue. Meaning it's separated for good.
This is the issue that many people ran into, which lead them to believe that Sea Glow causes separation. However I disprove this in my AJ XI Separation Anxiety write up from last year. The main culprit is heat.
This was documented on 6-1-2007 before people started taking credit for my findings.
-Results are temporary
-Either makes the soles sticky or slippery
Pictures of heat damaged shoes
The glue holding it together melted, separated, then cooled down while separated.
Air Jordan XVI
Air Jordan V Retro
PRO's
-Can fully or partially unyellow Clear Rubber.
On to the
SEA GLOW GUIDE
What you need
Sea Glow, flat head toothbrush, plenty of white towels (check Walmart they're like $5 for like 10-20 towels).
The main reason for white towels is the fact that (scientifically speaking) the color white reflects heat. So with that said, leaving your black/silver 5's or Space Jam XI's exposed in the heat will cause the black color to fade.
Use the white towels to cover up parts of the shoe that's not being Sea Glow'ed. This gives the leather or nubuck some slight protection from the heat and UV rays. Also make sure to put towels underneath the shoes as well. You don't want them sticking onto whatever you placed them on.
1. With the flip top lid opened, apply a small dab onto the toothbrush head.
2. Lightly go over the yellowed rubber. You only want a light even coat.
3. Whatever part of the shoe that is not being put through the Sea Glow process, cover with a white towel.
4. Check the shoes every 10-15 minutes. It's usually best in the low 80 degrees. Anything higher, you will need to check often for sole separation.
5. After checking, if the Sea Glow looks dried up, apply another light coat. Continue this step until you decide to call it quits for the day.
6. Wipe the soles off with a towel. I personally have never used a damp towel to wipe off excess Sea Glow, so do what works best for you.
I'm only Sea Glowing the edges due to the fact that Sea Glow-ing the bottom can kill the traction.
Before
After 2 sessions
After one wearing, I noticed that using Sea Glow on the sides maintained the integrity of the soles' traction, as opposed to my previous pairs that were subjected to a total treatment of Sea Glow on every inch of the soles. In which, led to bad traction on most surfaces.
For a more in depth guide, please check out Automata's Sea Glow Guide
http://www.solecollector.com/forums/ultimate-restoration-cleaning-guide-read-first-t185188.html#10321556
Keep in mind that results do vary. One may not be able to achieve the same results of another person. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dalyte1
Sneaker Doctors
Joined: Feb 11 2003
Posts: 7033
Feedback: 43
Location: Delano - Earlimart (661) Central Valley
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:10 am Post subject: Storage & Preservation |
|
|
|
|
Storage & Preservation
This is what I currently use to store my shoes. You can practically find it in most stores. I'll post a picture of the box when I find it. I actually purchased this to keep bugs out of my shoe boxes.
Silica:
Silica was the go to thing when it came to keeping certain areas of shoes white and clear. However, it's been apparent that along with that positive aspect, there is also a negative aspect. It has been proven by other members that Silica draws out too much moisture from Polyurathane Foam-type midsoles, specifically 1999 AJ IV Retros and etc. Which has led to many DS pairs crumbling or cracking upon wear.
There has also been some instances in which it has also cause shoes to separate from the midsole and or sole, due to drying out the glue (DS AJ XI's).
Storage
As mentioned by many over and over...
You will need to store your shoes in a cool dark place. Such as a closet. During the summer months, I usually run an electric fan into my closet to keep it cool during the times when the Air Conditioner is turned off. It's also a good idea to check on your shoes every month. This should aid in slowing down the yellowing/aging process. However it is not a sure fire way that it will.
Too much handling can lead to yellowing. A prime example are the shoes at Shoe Stores.
In terms of future wear, it looks like you have to wear your shoes around the house from time to time, to keep the materials plyable. That way you can lessen the chances of the midsoles crumbling. However, I would not advise this for DS condition shoes such as AJ IV's from 1999 and etc. since there is a high chance of them actually cracking/crumbling upon trying them on or during wear. So in a sense, it's kind of too late for them. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
coryblack
Much Respect
Joined: Jul 06 2005
Posts: 2124
Feedback: 109
Location: THE ROTTEN APPLE,NYC
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
can i turn these
into something like these with a lot of dedicated time with seaglow????
_________________
"I don't get mad, I get paid"
Seaglow jobs - $20 a pair $35 for 2. Non-negotiable
Reglues and Whitening also.
Pm me or hit me on aim..
Previous Work
11s and Fitteds 4 Sale |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hhabla
Much Respect
Joined: Jan 27 2008
Posts: 1926
Feedback: 17
Location: The heart of the apple grove
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
I dont know if immeligible to answer questions but yes you can..but since it says you live in NYC..there barely any sunlight.and it too cold
_________________
Got a problem? Head to the relationship thread
Wanted:Look
Buy my Jordans:Buy
Stark Laces and Phone Straps:Buy
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
coryblack
Much Respect
Joined: Jul 06 2005
Posts: 2124
Feedback: 109
Location: THE ROTTEN APPLE,NYC
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
^yeah i know i was going to wait till spring/summer but i just dont want to save these and waste my time down the road thats why im looking for issers who have sea glowed before with soles that were around that condition
_________________
"I don't get mad, I get paid"
Seaglow jobs - $20 a pair $35 for 2. Non-negotiable
Reglues and Whitening also.
Pm me or hit me on aim..
Previous Work
11s and Fitteds 4 Sale |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BrAcE YoUr SELf FoOl
Kicks Knowledgeable
Joined: Sep 02 2008
Posts: 891
Feedback: 5
Location: QuEeNz KidD
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ktang235
Kicks Knowledgeable
Joined: Jul 21 2007
Posts: 642
Feedback: 23
Location: Dallas
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BrAcE YoUr SELf FoOl
Kicks Knowledgeable
Joined: Sep 02 2008
Posts: 891
Feedback: 5
Location: QuEeNz KidD
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ktang235
Kicks Knowledgeable
Joined: Jul 21 2007
Posts: 642
Feedback: 23
Location: Dallas
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BrAcE YoUr SELf FoOl
Kicks Knowledgeable
Joined: Sep 02 2008
Posts: 891
Feedback: 5
Location: QuEeNz KidD
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ktang235
Kicks Knowledgeable
Joined: Jul 21 2007
Posts: 642
Feedback: 23
Location: Dallas
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
gettoant6@yahoo.com
Much Respect
Joined: Feb 23 2008
Posts: 2247
Feedback: 12
Location: Mets hometown,Queens,NYC.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
