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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: :: Official Wheel & Tire Guide / Q&A :: Reply with quote




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I have noticed many members ask alot of questions about Wheels & Tires
Please use this thread for the following :
You have questions about
Wheels, Tires, sizing, offset, bolt pattern, alignment etc.....
PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS THREAD FOR RIM OPINIONS FOR YOUR CAR
SMH "Do you think these wheels will look good on my car?"
SMH
If you need a opinion on a certain wheel, please use the proper car thread for that
So if you drive a Honda and need a opinion on a Rim you would like to put on or buy
Use the Honda/Acura Thread
etc........etc.........

Please be respectful on this thread, meaning keep the FLAMING shit out !

I will post a few links to some sites that are very helpful with questions you may have
Please use those links to see if your question can be answered there.

BOLT PATTERN GUIDE HERE

Offset explained:
Increasing offset (higher number) will result in your wheel becoming more inset and move towards your car.
Decreasing your offset (lower number) will make your wheels more flush with your fender.

There are two ways that offset can affect the actual build of a wheel.
Sometimes it will increase the mass on the back of the face of the wheels
(like adding a spacer, which is strongly discouraged unless they're properly installed like H&R or kics)
or the face of the wheel goes closer to the middle (if decreased from a positive offset)
thus giving a larger lip.
Not all wheels and manufacturers are the same and depends on not only width but manufacturer and particular wheel.
These charts can be usually found on a manufacturer's website.



Camber Explained:
Camber is the angle that your wheel creates with a line perpendicular with the ground.
Negative camber will make the top of your wheel sit inside your fender more and will give you more room to have more offset or have wider tires.
When I had LESS camber (smaller negative number) my wheels sat a lot more flush than when I had more camber (larger negative number)
as to where I now want more aggressive wheels (both wider and lower offset).
Camber has a negative cogitation with camber wear.
If you properly rotate your tires they should not decrease the life of your tires too badly.
Toe is what you want to make sure you dont have.





Lug nut information:
Aftermarket lugs are made for aftermarket wheels. Not only for "wheel safety",
because nobody wants your rotas, but because the seating on the inside of the bolt is correct.
Stock wheels have a ball seat while aftermarket wheels have a conical seat.
Dont put aftermarket lugs on your stock wheels,




ADVAN Neova AD08

Tires explained:
Tire Size Viewed On Sidewall
P215/45R17 87V M+S

-P = Type of tire
-215= width of the tire across the tread in millimeters
-45= Aspect ratio of the sidewall compared to the width
-R = Radial construction
-17= Diameter of the rim in inches
-87 = Tire's load rating
-V = Tire's speed rating
-M+S = Tire is suitable for all-season driving

Speed Ratings
M 81 mph (130 km/h)
N 87 mph (140km/h) Temporary Spare Tires
P 93 mph (150 km/h)
Q 99 mph (160 km/h) Studless & Studdable Winter Tires
R 106 mph (170 km/h) H.D. Light Truck Tires
S 112 mph (180 km/h) Family Sedans & Vans
T 118 mph (190 km/h) Family Sedans & Vans
U 124 mph (200 km/h)
H 130 mph (210 km/h) Sport Sedans & Coupes
V 149 mph (240 km/h) Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars
DOT = US Dept. of Transportation
OB = Manuf. and Plant Code
XO - Tire Size and Code
C60 - Tire Manuf. Symbols and Keys
2206 = Production Date (ie: week/year, 22nd week of 2006)

Tire Rotation
(6,000 - 7,000 Miles or Every Other Oil Change)

About Tire Pressure
According to fueleconomy studies, maintaining the proper inflation pressure of your tires can improve your fuel economy by three percent,
but even a small reduction in pressure can have a significant effect on your fuel economy.
Having a tire under-inflated by as little as one pound can reduce your fuel economy by 0.3 percent.
Under-inflated tires wear faster and are more susceptible to failure.

Time Frame
Even a tire in good condition will lose air pressure over time.
Tire pressure is measured in "pounds per square inch" which is abbreviated as psi.
Typically a loss of one psi per month is normal, but an older tire or one mounted on a damaged rim could lose pressure at a faster rate.
For a tire with a recommended inflation pressure of 30 psi, a one pound per month loss will leave it under-inflated by 20 percent after six months.
When striking a road hazard a tire that is under-inflated by 20 percent is more prone to blow-outs or sidewall damage.
When hitting pot holes or bridge expansion joints the greater flex allowed by the sidewall of an under-inflated tire can also lead to serious wheel damage.

Effects
Under-inflated tires generate more friction which can be detrimental in two primary ways.
Friction generates heat and excessive heat can damage the structure of a tire over time.
Friction also increases rolling resistance which will reduce fuel economy.
Overinflated tires will wear more quickly and unevenly.
An overinflated tire will transmit more road noise and vibration into the cockpit resulting in a more uncomfortable ride.

Prevention/Solution
Checking your tire pressure every time you fill your tank or at least once a month is the most effective way to ensure that you maintain the correct pressure.
The chart with your vehicle's correct pressure settings is typically located in either the glove compartment, the owner's manual, inside the fuel door or on the driver's door jam.
The pressure indicated on the tire's sidewall is the maximum allowable pressure for that tire and is not usually the pressure recommended by the vehicle's manufacturer for normal driving conditions.
Do not rely on the tire pressure gauge built into a service station's air compressor.
Frequent drops or misuse often makes them unreliable and inaccurate.
Invest in a tire pressure gauge that you can keep in the glove compartment.
A simple pencil shaped gauge is adequate, but a dial type is generally more accurate and easier to read.

Expert Insight Wink
If you use an oil change facility that includes a tire pressure check as part of their service recheck the pressure after they have completed the job.
It is not uncommon for them to automatically inflate your tires to the maximum air pressure listed on the tire's sidewall instead of locating the manufacturer's recommended pressure.
When you check your tire's air pressure do a visual inspection to see if your tires are wearing unevenly or if there is any apparent damage to them.

Stretched Tires Explained :
what is stretch?
- "stretch" refers to stretching a narrower tire over a wider wheel, the sidewalls stretch from the lip to the tread

why do stretched tires?
- when you would like to run really wide or low offset wheels and keep the tire tread at the fender
- when you would like to go really low and not rub

Is stretching tires unsafe?
- there hasnt been any soild evidence that running a stretched tire is any more dangerous than a regular tire.

Negative effects:
Rims left totally exposed to curbs/rash
Tires distorted due to being fitted to too wide a rim
requiring much higher inflation pressures to prevent excessive wear on the edges of the tread surface
Rough choppy ride due to higher inflation requirements
Likelihood of actually having the tire coming off the bead if impacted
Higher wear rate on suspension components
Higher wear rate on wheel bearings
Poor directional stability due to wrong offset being used

where can i get tires stretched?
-any reputable wheel/tire shop should be able to do it.

What tires stretch the best ?

toyo t1-s
dunlop sp9000
dunlop sp8080e
falken fk451
+ a few more brands

( look for a tire with a rounded shoulder and a lip protector, they tend to give the "desirable" look )

* Staggered wheels are stupid on fwd cars, arent you worried about handling ? *
- its all about looks, you wont see anyone with low offset deep dish wheels flying around a race track

What size/offset wheels are the best for a staggered look ?
- its all about personal preference.

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If you have anymore questions about any of the following
feel free to post them or send me a Private Message/Email

*Uncle




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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Read it all. Good information. Will definitely be using this thread in the future!

But will be using some information right away! ;]

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for this

I needed to know this because Im approaching buying my first car
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


will these look good on my car
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yamuda wrote:
Wow. Read it all. Good information. Will definitely be using this thread in the future!

But will be using some information right away! ;]

Thanks!


aj23_addiction wrote:
Thanks for this

I needed to know this because Im approaching buying my first car


Glad to hear that you got a lil info from this thread Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the idea behind stretching tires?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ People stretch the tires so they can use the tires on a much more aggressively wider wheel
and so that the tire still looks like its sitting inside the fender, while the rest of the rim sticks outside the fender

Is that what you meant about stretching tires ? ?




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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I see.

Yeah that's what I meant. Thanks for clearing that up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also if you guys want to search up how a specific wheel size looks like on a specific car visit

rimtuck.com

this is a pretty handy site

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was some good info. Learned a couple things too.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know about Discount Tire Co. and there return policy on wheels?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loveforjordan wrote:
Anyone know about Discount Tire Co. and there return policy on wheels?


Im sure it states the policy on their site
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope nothing on there wheels, only on tires.....and the warranty says nothing about rims or wheels...just tires.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac178 wrote:
also if you guys want to search up how a specific wheel size looks like on a specific car visit

rimtuck.com

this is a pretty handy site

just checked this site out, very helpful, thanks!

now i know that i don't really need to roll for the wheel size that i want to fit Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another question Laughing

What's the idea behind running staggered wheels? Is it just for aesthetics?
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