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Months ago | 14th May 2012 05:05
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With the minimalist market accounting for a large portion of sales and with many companies following the trend, I find it interesting that Mizuno has created a product featuring full length wave technology (Mizuno Wave Prophecy). Seven years of research went into the development of the Prophecy. Mizuno has advertised this shoe with a slow motion video of a very pronounced heel strike. I know proper form is the key, so I'm sure this video is simply meant to showcase the wave technology and appeal to those who do heel strike (and there are many). Yet still, it has many trashing the shoes on account of promoting improper form and claiming the wave to be a gimmick.
Can anyone strike a balance in the debate of barefoot running versus traditional cushioned shoes?
I understand that it probably isn't practical for everyone's routines to take the time to prepare themselves physically for the barefoot experience. Having said that, is the Mizuno Wave Prophecy a creative breath of fresh air in a growing market of copycats, or a jazzed up gimmick promoting flawed mechanics?
The balance = YOU basically.
Like Master's link explains very well, your need to find your balance, and you can find it by adding cushioning, or support, or having better form, and mechanics, or something in-between depending on the problem, and how fixable it is.
The heel-strike in the add, was just that, advertisement, looking around YouTube, you can see mid-, and fore-foot strikers run in 'em comfortably too.
The mechanical cushioning on the Prophecy, is probably most suited for the runner, that needs a little more cushioning(bigger runner, or poorer form), and support, and has a quite an aggressive attack.
But it's a solid technology, especially for the bigger, more aggressive guys.
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Does sprint frame break in eventually? I tried on the Rose 2.5 and underfoot it felt really stiff. Maybe I'm just not used to it because I've only worn Nikes.
Yes, basically the SprintFrame is a track-spike influence, so you get a lot of forming-support from it(it creates a cup for your foot to sit in, while you explode into your movement), so it starts off to be as direct as possible(firmness, makes you quicker, the softer the shoe, the longer you wait for a reaction), but it settles down pretty quickly.
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Months ago | 14th May 2012 11:54
Thanks to mastergrim8 & Nene for the info. That article on Roy, Oden & the Blazers was really interesting. Disappointing to see professionals acting so unprofessional. Obviously their methodology was flawed and they also displayed great ignorance. You would hope a situation would be explored seriously from all angles until a solution is reached instead of having tunnel vision and even laughing at proposed solutions.
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Months ago | 15th May 2012 05:20
You can get similar traction on both brands(both brands have a full range from the very sticky, to the very strong, and durable), it's all a matter of finding a shoe that suits you.
You're gonna have to ask something more specific to yourself, and the court you normally play on, than towards brands, if you wanna get a useful answer.
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Months ago | 23rd May 2012 16:57
What are these ? I've had them for 6+ years and all I know is they're pump up Reeboks
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[quote="ShangriLAinreverse"]With the minimalist market accounting for a large portion of sales and with many companies following the trend, I find it interesting that Mizuno has created a product featuring full length wave technology (Mizuno Wave Prophecy). Seven years of research went into the development of the Prophecy. Mizuno has advertised this shoe with a slow motion video of a very pronounced heel strike. I know proper form is the key, so I'm sure this video is simply meant to showcase the wave technology and appeal to those who do heel strike (and there are many). Yet still, it has many trashing the shoes on account of promoting improper form and claiming the wave to be a gimmick.
Can anyone strike a balance in the debate of barefoot running versus traditional cushioned shoes?
I understand that it probably isn't practical for everyone's routines to take the time to prepare themselves physically for the barefoot experience. Having said that, is the Mizuno Wave Prophecy a creative breath of fresh air in a growing market of copycats, or a jazzed up gimmick promoting flawed mechanics? [/quote]
The balance = YOU basically.
Like Master's link explains very well, your need to find your balance, and you can find it by adding cushioning, or support, or having better form, and mechanics, or something in-between depending on the problem, and how fixable it is.
The heel-strike in the add, was just that, advertisement, looking around YouTube, you can see mid-, and fore-foot strikers run in 'em comfortably too.
The mechanical cushioning on the Prophecy, is probably most suited for the runner, that needs a little more cushioning(bigger runner, or poorer form), and support, and has a quite an aggressive attack.
But it's a solid technology, especially for the bigger, more aggressive guys.
[quote="dp1224"]Does sprint frame break in eventually? I tried on the Rose 2.5 and underfoot it felt really stiff. Maybe I'm just not used to it because I've only worn Nikes.[/quote]
Yes, basically the SprintFrame is a track-spike influence, so you get a lot of forming-support from it(it creates a cup for your foot to sit in, while you explode into your movement), so it starts off to be as direct as possible(firmness, makes you quicker, the softer the shoe, the longer you wait for a reaction), but it settles down pretty quickly.
Thanks to mastergrim8 & Nene for the info. That article on Roy, Oden & the Blazers was really interesting. Disappointing to see professionals acting so unprofessional. Obviously their methodology was flawed and they also displayed great ignorance. You would hope a situation would be explored seriously from all angles until a solution is reached instead of having tunnel vision and even laughing at proposed solutions.
Can someone tell me does adidas or nike have the best grip on the court?
You can get similar traction on both brands(both brands have a full range from the very sticky, to the very strong, and durable), it's all a matter of finding a shoe that suits you.
You're gonna have to ask something more specific to yourself, and the court you normally play on, than towards brands, if you wanna get a useful answer.
Anybody know how the Jordan Fly Wade 2s fit? I have read they run narrow and to go up a half size, but most Jordan shoes run big to me anyway.....I wear a 10.5 in the Hyperfuses and Hyperdunks so if that helps any.
I'd stay true, nearly all fuse-shoes get called narrow, but that's mostly firmness, that shapes to your foot after breaking them in.
What are these ? I've had them for 6+ years and all I know is they're pump up Reeboks
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They're the Reebok Pump Arrival. :up:
I'm a US size 8.5 and I'm deciding on whether or not to pick up a pair of Adidas Heat Check in a size 8. Would I experience problems by doing so? I once went a half size down in a pair of Barkleys and it was an uncomfortable experience. Hope that gives a little bit of insight on the situation. Any advice would be appreciated.
The Heat Checks are already quite snug, so I think it might be pushing it, to go down .5 size.
