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Months ago | 11th May 2012 03:43
At full game-speed, your shoes do next to nothing, as long as they don't fall apart, they're doing their job, neither do braces, or any other equipment, it's all down to your bio-mechanics by then, because it's too much force to contain in basketball-gear.
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Black Man explained perfectly what happened to Rose(wish they'd stop harrassing him, and deleting his posts, it's making everybody dumber), it's to do with de-conditioning during his minor injuries, Rose still had the muscle-power to explode into the movement, but couldn't control, and slow down the back-end of that movement, it's why so many players had knee issues this season, they had the power to explode into movement, but the 66 games, in 121 days makes the body too sloppy to control the slow down, and form properly.
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Months ago | 11th May 2012 07:22
^ ahh gotcha. again, it all goes back to our unique bio mechanics.
thanks for clearing all that up Nene!
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Months ago | 11th May 2012 13:11
It's probably because they're less structured, Crazy 8 are very much a supportive wrap-around type shape, made from leather, and suede, the Top Ten 2000 are half mesh in the uppers, with leather support straps to give the shoe body, and the Elastic-Stripes really add a very friendly, comfortable, natural fit.
That naturalness is great IMO
Let us know how they play
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Months ago | 13th May 2012 03:45
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I just got a pair of Top Ten 2000s, I just walked in them briefly when I got home and I might favor these over the crazy 8s, I can't describe it, but I get a better 'feel' if you will with these. I can't wait to break them out in some games after my finals.
i'd definitely wanna know how they play too. where you cop? i don't wanna pay retail :/
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Months ago | 14th May 2012 03:16
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With the minimalist market accounting for a large portion of sales and with many companies following the trend, I find it interesting that Mizuno has created a product featuring full length wave technology (Mizuno Wave Prophecy). Seven years of research went into the development of the Prophecy. Mizuno has advertised this shoe with a slow motion video of a very pronounced heel strike. I know proper form is the key, so I'm sure this video is simply meant to showcase the wave technology and appeal to those who do heel strike (and there are many). Yet still, it has many trashing the shoes on account of promoting improper form and claiming the wave to be a gimmick.
Can anyone strike a balance in the debate of barefoot running versus traditional cushioned shoes?
I understand that it probably isn't practical for everyone's routines to take the time to prepare themselves physically for the barefoot experience. Having said that, is the Mizuno Wave Prophecy a creative breath of fresh air in a growing market of copycats, or a jazzed up gimmick promoting flawed mechanics?
http://zigsports.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/greg-oden-brandon-roy-what-what-happened/
Read this, as silly as it may sound, the basic principal of proper biomechanics cannot be ignored and covering it up via cushioning, new technology,etc is just ignorant.
Yes most people do heel strike and I was one of those people. If you think about it, every time you do heel strike the force travels from the heel and up to the knee. When you strike with the forefoot, the knee certainly receive a lot less force, tension and stress. Without going all technical into the biomechanics, accumulation of less stress and force on your knees is better for you long term.
I'm sure the Prophecy does help those with heel strikes and it is NO GIMMICK. But with that great cushioning it encourages excessive heel striking which can lead to severe injury. If you land on a rock or trip, wouldn't you rather land on your forefoot than your heel. Try jumping and landing on a crack on your sidewalk or land on an uneven surface on your heel and compare that to landing on your forefoot and you'll see that you have a better chance adjusting and preventing an injury if you landed on your forefoot.
It's also the same idea with jumping rope, landing on your forefoot is recommended as landing on your heel repetitively is quite painful.
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At full game-speed, your shoes do next to nothing, as long as they don't fall apart, they're doing their job, neither do braces, or any other equipment, it's all down to your bio-mechanics by then, because it's too much force to contain in basketball-gear.
And [b]Black Man[/b] explained perfectly what happened to Rose(wish they'd stop harrassing him, and deleting his posts, it's making everybody dumber), it's to do with de-conditioning during his minor injuries, Rose still had the muscle-power to explode into the movement, but couldn't control, and slow down the back-end of that movement, it's why so many players had knee issues this season, they had the power to explode into movement, but the 66 games, in 121 days makes the body too sloppy to control the slow down, and form properly.
^ ahh gotcha. again, it all goes back to our unique bio mechanics.
thanks for clearing all that up Nene!
:up: No problem
I just got a pair of Top Ten 2000s, I just walked in them briefly when I got home and I might favor these over the crazy 8s, I can't describe it, but I get a better 'feel' if you will with these. I can't wait to break them out in some games after my finals.
It's probably because they're less structured, Crazy 8 are very much a supportive wrap-around type shape, made from leather, and suede, the Top Ten 2000 are half mesh in the uppers, with leather support straps to give the shoe body, and the Elastic-Stripes really add a very friendly, comfortable, natural fit.
That naturalness is great IMO :up:
Let us know how they play :up:
[quote="mastergrim8"]I just got a pair of Top Ten 2000s, I just walked in them briefly when I got home and I might favor these over the crazy 8s, I can't describe it, but I get a better 'feel' if you will with these. I can't wait to break them out in some games after my finals.[/quote]
i'd definitely wanna know how they play too. where you cop? i don't wanna pay retail :/
@gdiemaster, I initially wanted to buy from nicekicks.com in that bright blue/navy colorway but they had no size 8s. I then stumbled on to DRJAys.com and bought them for $95 shipped after a coupon code, shipping and NY tax.
With the minimalist market accounting for a large portion of sales and with many companies following the trend, I find it interesting that Mizuno has created a product featuring full length wave technology (Mizuno Wave Prophecy). Seven years of research went into the development of the Prophecy. Mizuno has advertised this shoe with a slow motion video of a very pronounced heel strike. I know proper form is the key, so I'm sure this video is simply meant to showcase the wave technology and appeal to those who do heel strike (and there are many). Yet still, it has many trashing the shoes on account of promoting improper form and claiming the wave to be a gimmick.
Can anyone strike a balance in the debate of barefoot running versus traditional cushioned shoes?
I understand that it probably isn't practical for everyone's routines to take the time to prepare themselves physically for the barefoot experience. Having said that, is the Mizuno Wave Prophecy a creative breath of fresh air in a growing market of copycats, or a jazzed up gimmick promoting flawed mechanics?
Does sprint frame break in eventually? I tried on the Rose 2.5 and underfoot it felt really stiff. Maybe I'm just not used to it because I've only worn Nikes.
[quote="ShangriLAinreverse"]With the minimalist market accounting for a large portion of sales and with many companies following the trend, I find it interesting that Mizuno has created a product featuring full length wave technology (Mizuno Wave Prophecy). Seven years of research went into the development of the Prophecy. Mizuno has advertised this shoe with a slow motion video of a very pronounced heel strike. I know proper form is the key, so I'm sure this video is simply meant to showcase the wave technology and appeal to those who do heel strike (and there are many). Yet still, it has many trashing the shoes on account of promoting improper form and claiming the wave to be a gimmick.
Can anyone strike a balance in the debate of barefoot running versus traditional cushioned shoes?
I understand that it probably isn't practical for everyone's routines to take the time to prepare themselves physically for the barefoot experience. Having said that, is the Mizuno Wave Prophecy a creative breath of fresh air in a growing market of copycats, or a jazzed up gimmick promoting flawed mechanics? [/quote]
http://zigsports.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/greg-oden-brandon-roy-what-what-happened/
Read this, as silly as it may sound, the basic principal of proper biomechanics cannot be ignored and covering it up via cushioning, new technology,etc is just ignorant.
Yes most people do heel strike and I was one of those people. If you think about it, every time you do heel strike the force travels from the heel and up to the knee. When you strike with the forefoot, the knee certainly receive a lot less force, tension and stress. Without going all technical into the biomechanics, accumulation of less stress and force on your knees is better for you long term.
I'm sure the Prophecy does help those with heel strikes and it is NO GIMMICK. But with that great cushioning it encourages excessive heel striking which can lead to severe injury. If you land on a rock or trip, wouldn't you rather land on your forefoot than your heel. Try jumping and landing on a crack on your sidewalk or land on an uneven surface on your heel and compare that to landing on your forefoot and you'll see that you have a better chance adjusting and preventing an injury if you landed on your forefoot.
It's also the same idea with jumping rope, landing on your forefoot is recommended as landing on your heel repetitively is quite painful.